Schuering Zimmerman & Doyle, LLP

Schuering Zimmerman & Doyle, LLP

Our trial lawyers have obtained more defense verdicts for physicians and other health care professionals in the past 10 years than any other law firm in Northern California.

Firm Overview

Schuering Zimmerman & Doyle, LLP was formed in May of 1989 when several of our lawyers grew weary of practicing in a large multispecialty law firm. They wanted to practice in a small law firm and focus on medical malpractice defense and general civil defense. They also wanted to focus on a trial practice, not a litigation practice. Those lawyers still practice together and over the years others have joined them, and the firm has grown. In this day of diminished loyalty and lawyers moving from one firm to another, and then another, it is noteworthy four of our partners joined the firm's founding partner Leo H. Schuering, Jr. just after law school.

Today, our law firm is a trial law firm, not a litigation law firm. Our lawyers are trial lawyers, not litigators. Our trial lawyers handle cases and trials throughout Northern California and Nevada in state and federal courts and they have obtained more defense verdicts for physicians and other health care professionals in the past 10 years than any other law firm in Northern California. Our trial lawyers have a number of achievements that speak to their significant qualifications and successes:
-More than 300 collective years of legal experience
-More than 400 collective trials to verdict
-Eight trial lawyers who meet the stringent admission requirements of the American Board of Trial Advocates
-Five trial lawyers who are AV-Rated in the Martindale-Hubbell Legal Directory
-Recognized by The Best Lawyers in America
-Trial Lawyer of the Year Award by the American Board of Trial Advocates, Sacramento Valley Chapter First time this honor given to a defense lawyer
-Lead defense lawyer in the Redding heart cases
Main Office
Main Office
400 University Avenue
Sacramento  CA  95825
Phone
  • 916-567-0400
Websites
Medical Malpractice
Because we believe our clients are our most important and valued assets, we place great emphasis on being accessible, timely and cost effective.
The keystone of our practice is medical malpractice defense and we represent physicians, hospitals, clinics, outpatient surgery centers, nurses and other allied health professionals, podiatrists, chiropractors and dentists throughout Northern California and Nevada.

Over many years we have acquired in-depth knowledge, unique skills and experience in all specialties of medicine and all areas of medical malpractice. We have successfully tried cases to verdict in every specialty of medicine, as well as nursing, podiatric, chiropractic, dental, medical device and pharmaceutical cases. We specialize however in obstetrical malpractice cases and other complex medical malpractice cases.

Leo H. Schuering, Jr.

Butch was born and raised in Sacramento, California. He has practiced law since 1967 and he is a member of ABOTA; he has tried more than 140 cases to verdict in California. Over the years he has been a mentor to a number of his current partners young lawyers who came to work for him just after law school. Butch's practice focuses on medical malpractice defense and select cases in general civil defense, insurance bad faith defense and legal malpractice defense. He is well known for his defense of obstetricians/gynecologists in birth injury cases, and he has given many presentations over the years about birth injury cases to obstetricians/gynecologists, lawyers and claims representatives. When he is not working, you will find Butch duck hunting, attending the San Francisco Opera or attending thoroughbred horse races.

PROFESSIONAL HISTORY
-1989 to Present - Schuering Zimmerman & Doyle, LLP, Sacramento, CA
-Managing Partner
-1982 to 1989 - Weintraub Genshlea Hardy Erich & Brown, Sacramento, CA
-Managing Partner
-1969 to 1982 - Hardy Erich & Brown, Sacramento, CA
-Partner

EDUCATION
-J.D., University of California, Hastings College of Law, 1967
-B.S., University of California, Davis, 1964
-United States Air Force Academy, 1960 to 1964

ADMISSIONS
-California, 1967
-Colorado, 1994
-United States District Court, Eastern District of California, 1967
-United States District Court, Northern District of California, 1967
-United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit, 1967
-United States Supreme Court, 1976

HONORS AND MEMBERSHIPS
-American Board of Trial Advocates- Advocate
-Martindale-Hubbell rating: AV
-The Best Lawyers in America: 1987 to Present
-Northern California Super Lawyers: 2005 to Present
-State Bar of California
-State Bar of Colorado
-Association of Defense Counsel of Northern California and Nevada
-Defense Research Institute
-American Bar Association
-Sacramento County Bar Association

COMMUNITY SERVICE
-Ducks Unlimited, Member, Board of Directors, 1977 to 1979
-The Cathedral Renaissance Committee, Member, Board of Directors, 1982 to 1989
-Christian Brothers High School, Member, Board of Governors, 1983 to 1993
-Sacramento Opera Society, Member, Board of Directors, 1983 to 1989

PERSONAL INTERESTS
-Capitol Rugby Club
-Crocker Art Gallery
-California Horse Racing Association
-Duck's Unlimited
-Sutter Club
-California Wildlife Association
Education
  • University of California, Hastings College of Law
    Juris Doctorate

Robert H. Zimmerman

Bob was born in Camden, New Jersey and he grew up in Cherry Hill, New Jersey where he was a state pole vault champion. He has practiced law since 1978 and he is a member of American Board of Trial Advocates and American College of Trial Lawyers; he has tried more than 100 cases to verdict in California. The Sacramento Valley Chapter of ABOTA gave him the Trial Lawyer of the Year Award in 2002 which was the first time the award was given to a defense lawyer. Bob's practice focuses on medical malpractice defense (he was the lead defense lawyer in the Redding heart cases and is Board Certified in Medical Malpractice) and general civil defense. He also represents plaintiffs in select personal injury cases and plaintiffs or defendants in complex business cases.

PROFESSIONAL HISTORY
-1989 to Present - Schuering Zimmerman & Doyle, LLP, Sacramento, CA
-Partner
-1983 to 1989 - Weintraub Genshlea Hardy Erich & Brown, Sacramento, CA
-Partner
-1979 to 1983 - Hardy Erich & Brown, Sacramento, CA
-Associate

EDUCATION
-J.D., University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law, 1978
-B.A. (History), Juniata College, Huntington, Pennsylvania, 1974

ADMISSIONS
-California, 1978
-United States District Court, Eastern District of California, 1979
-United States District Court, Northern District of California, 1979

HONORS AND MEMBERSHIPS
-American Board of Trial Advocates
-President and Executive Board Member, Sacramento Valley Chapter: 2010
-Trial Lawyer of the Year, Sacramento Valley Chapter: 2002
-American Board of Professional Liability Attorneys
-Board Certified in Medical Malpractice, 2012
-Fellow of the American College of Trial Lawyers
-Martindale-Hubbell rating: AV
-Northern California Super Lawyers: 2003 to Present
-Traynor Honor Society
-Anthony Kennedy Inns of Court
-State Bar of California
-Association of Defense Counsel of Northern California and Nevada
-Sacramento County Bar Association

PERSONAL INTERESTS
-Snow and water sports
-Travel
-Running
-Coaching pole vault, high school
Education
  • University of the Pacific
    Juris Doctorate

Thomas J. Doyle

Tom was born in Charleston, South Carolina and he grew up in Chicago, Illinois and Madison, Wisconsin. He has practiced law since 1984 and he is a member of ABOTA; he has tried more than 55 cases to verdict in California and Nevada. Tom's practice focuses on medical malpractice defense, medical professional advocacy and elder abuse defense. When he is not working, he can often be found helping his wife (Kathy Joseph) at Fiddlehead Cellars' winery or vineyard (Fiddlestix) in the Santa Ynez Valley/Ste. Rita Hills.

PROFESSIONAL HISTORY
-1989 to Present - Schuering Zimmerman & Doyle, LLP, Sacramento, CA
-Partner
-1984 to 1989 - Weintraub Genshlea Hardy Erich & Brown, Sacramento, CA
-Associate

EDUCATION
-J.D. with Honors, University of San Francisco, 1984
-Comments Editor, University of San Francisco Law Review
-American Jurisprudence Award Constitutional Law
-B.A. (History and Art History), University of Wisconsin Madison, 1980

ADMISSIONS
-California, 1984
-Nevada, 1985
-United States District Court, Eastern District of California, 1984
-United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit, 1986
-United States District Court, District of Nevada, 1991
-United States District Court, Central District of California, 1996
-United States District Court, Southern District of California, 1997

HONORS AND MEMBERSHIPS
-American Board of Trial Advocates Advocate
-American Board of Professional Liability Attorneys,
-Board Certified in Medical Malpractice, 2012
-Martindale-Hubbell rating: AV
-Northern California Super Lawyers: 2008 - Present
-State Bar of California
-State Bar of Nevada
-Association of Defense Counsel of Northern California and Nevada
-Defense Research Institute
-Sacramento County Bar Association
-Washoe County Bar Association

PUBLICATIONS
-The Nonmedia Figure and Strict Liability in California: 18 University of San Francisco Law Review 253, 1984

PRESENTATIONS
-Just Culture Identifying Opportunities to Transform the Medical Malpractice Culture From One of Privileged Information to One of Organization, Learning and Transparency. The California Patient Safety Action Coalition (CAPSAC). Sacramento, CA, April 30, 2010

Keeping Elder Abuse Out of Your Medical Malpractice Case. Association of Defense Counsel of Northern California and Nevada Annual Meeting. San Francisco, CA, December 4, 2008.

Elder Abuse. Norcal Mutual Insurance Company Claims Staff Seminar. San Francisco, CA, May 7, 2008.

A Mock Trial. University of California Davis Health Systems. Sacramento, CA, May 19, 2007.

Masters California Ultimate Trial Notebook, Cross-examination. American
Board of Trial Advocates. Sacramento, CA, December 9, 2005.

Overview of a Medical Malpractice Case and the Defendant's Deposition. The Woodland
Clinic Medical Group. Woodland, CA, June 16, 2005.

Masters in Trial A Trial Demonstration, Defendant's Opening Statements. American
Board of Trial Advocates. Sacramento, CA, November 21, 2003.

Masters California Ultimate Trial Notebook, Defendant's Opening Statement. American
Board of Trial Advocates. Sacramento, CA, December 15, 2000.

COMMUNITY SERVICE
-The Pence Gallery Davis, CA
-Member, Board of Directors, 2010 to Present
-Friends of CommuniCare Health Centers Davis, CA
-Member, Board of Directors, 2003 to Present
-President, Board of Directors, 2003 to Present
-CommuniCare Health Centers Davis, CA
-Member, Board of Directors, 1989-2003
-President, Board of Directors, 1990-2000
-Committee Chairperson for Capital Campaign
-Campaign Chairperson for Major Gifts Campaign

PERSONAL INTERESTS
-Travel
-Snow Skiing
-Food and Wine
-Historical FictionTom
Education
  • University of San Francisco
    Juris Doctorate

Lawrence S. Giardina

Larry was born in Whittier, California and he grew up in southern California. He has practiced law since 1985 and he is a member of ABOTA. He has tried numerous medical malpractice cases to jury verdict in California and Nevada. He has also tried numerous cases involving physician privileges and peer review before administrating hearing and hospital review committees. His practice focuses on medical malpractice defense, medical professional advocacy and elder abuse defense. When he is not working, Larry enjoys long-distance horseback riding and traveling to far away places for scuba diving.

PROFESSIONAL HISTORY
-1992 to Present - Schuering Zimmerman & Doyle, LLP, Sacramento, CA
-Partner
-1989 to 1992 - Schuering Zimmerman & Scully, LLP, Sacramento, CA
-Associate
-1985 to 1989 - Weintraub Genshlea Hardy Erich & Brown, Sacramento, CA
-Associate

EDUCATION
-J.D., University of California, Berkeley, Boalt Hall School of Law, 1985
-Certificate in Computer Programming (COBOL), 1982
-B.S. (Biology and Human Behavior), University of California, Davis, 1980

ADMISSIONS
-California, 1985
-Nevada, 1989
-United States District Court, Eastern District of California, 1985

HONORS AND MEMBERSHIPS
-American Board of Trial Advocates
-Northern California Super Lawyers 2010 - Present
-State Bar of California
-State Bar of Nevada
-Association of Defense Counsel of Northern California and Nevada
-California Society for Healthcare Attorneys
-California Society for Healthcare Attorneys, Hearing Officer Program
-Sacramento County Bar Association
-Placer County Bar Association

COMMUNITY SERVICE
-Meadow Vista Municipal Advisory Committee, 1994 to 2002 (1996 to 2002 Chairman)
-Meadow Vista Trails Association, Founding Member, 1992 to Present
-Meadow Vista Trails Association, Chairperson, 1998 to 2002

PERSONAL INTERESTS
-Scuba Diving (Master Diver, Rescue Diver, Dive Emergency Specialist, DAN Medic)
-Endurance Riding/Equestrian Activities
-Cross Country Skiing
-Political Nonfiction
Education
  • University of California, Berkeley
    Juris Doctorate

Keith D. Chidlaw

Keith, a native Sacramentan, has been a partner with the firm since 1995. Keith obtained his undergraduate degree at UC Davis and his law degree from University of Colorado at Boulder in 1987. Keith is admitted to practice in California and Colorado, as well as various federal courts. Keith has 27 years of litigation experience in his practice area of general civil litigation, including insurance bad faith, toxic torts, products liability, premises liability and motor vehicle. Keith is well connected throughout Northern California as a result of serving on the Board of Directors for the Association of Defense Counsel and is currently serving his ninth year on the Board. Keith recently became an office of the California Defense Counsel, which is the PAC for the Association of Defense Counsel. When not practicing law, Keith closely follows his daughters' college teams and frequently attends games. In his free time, Keith is an avid golfer, and also enjoys fishing, biking, skiing and traveling.

PROFESSIONAL HISTORY
-1989 to Present - Schuering Zimmerman & Doyle, LLP, Sacramento, CA
-Partner
-1987 to 1989 - Weintraub, Genshlea, Hardy, Erich & Brown, Sacramento, CA
-Associate

EDUCATION
-J.D., University of Colorado School of Law, 1987
-B.S. (Environmental Policy and Resource Economics), University of California, Davis, 1982

ADMISSIONS
-Colorado, 1987
-California, 1988
-United States District Court, Northern District of California, 2006
-United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit, 1987
-United States District Court, Eastern District of California, 1988

HONORS AND MEMBERSHIPS
-American Board of Trial Advocates
-Martindale-Hubbell rating: BV
-State Bar of California
-State Bar of Colorado
-Association of Defense Counsel of Northern California and Nevada
-Member, Board of Directors: 2005 to 2006; and 2009 to Present
-Defense Research Institute
-California Defense Counsel
-Treasurer, 2014
-Sacramento County Bar Association

PRESENTATIONS
Proving the Value of Past and Future Medical Expenses Under Recent Court Decisions. Employers Mutual Casualty Company on March 21, 2014.

Handling Policy Limit Demands - How Not to Lose a Client (and Avoid Getting Sued). Association of Defense Counsel meeting, San Francisco, December 12, 2013.

Taking and Defending Depositions - Tips and Techniques in Defending your Client's Deposition as well as Taking the Depositions of Plaintiffs and Key Witnesses. Basic Training for Civil Defense Attorneys, Association of Defense Counsel of Northern California and Nevada, Sacramento, CA, September 18, 2012.

Handling Uninsured/Underinsured Motorist Claims and Avoiding Bad Faith Lawsuits. United Services Automobile Association Claims Department and Staff Counsel Office. Sacramento, CA, May 21, 2007.

Do's and Don'ts and Helpful Hints - Young Lawyers Seminar, Association of Defense Counsel of Northern California and Nevada, Sacramento, CA, March 23, 2012.

Handling Uninsured/Underinsured Motorist Claims and Avoiding Bad Faith Lawsuits. United Services Automobile Association Claims Department and Staff Counsel Office. Irvine, CA, May 16, 2007.

Handling Defense Cases in the Tripartite Relationship. Association of Defense Counsel of Northern California and Nevada. San Francisco, CA, December 7, 2006.

Handling Uninsured/Underinsured Motorist Claims and Avoiding Bad Faith Lawsuits. Association of Defense Counsel of Northern California and Nevada. San Francisco, CA, December 7, 2006.

PERSONAL INTERESTS
-Soccer (coach for 14 years)
-Golf
-Skiing
-Hiking
-Fishing
-Road trips/travel
Education
  • University of Colorado School of Law
    Juris Doctorate

Dominique A. Pollara

Dominique was born in Minneapolis, Minnesota, and she was raised in Upstate New York. She has practiced law since 1984, and she is a member of ABOTA; she has tried more than 30 cases to verdict in California, Nevada and New York. Dominique's practice focuses on medical malpractice defense and medical professional advocacy. When she is not working on improving her surfing, you can find her practicing yoga, skiing at Squaw Valley, cycling in the foothills around Sacramento, fly fishing, playing with her dogs or donating her time to Homeward Bound (a golden retriever rescue organization).

PROFESSIONAL HISTORY
-1994 to Present - Schuering Zimmerman & Doyle, LLP, Sacramento, CA
-Partner
-1989 to 1994 - Thuillez, Ford, Gold & Conolly, Albany, NY
-Partner
-1988 to 1989 - McGlynn, McLong & McDowell, San Francisco, CA
-Law Clerk
-1986 to 1988 - Gold & Symansky, Albany, NY
-Associate
-1984 to 1986 - Buchyn, O'Hare & Werner, Schenectady, NY
-Associate

EDUCATION
-J.D. Cum Laude, Vermont School of Law, 1984
-B.S. Cum Laude (Animal Science), University of Massachusetts at Amherst, 1981

ADMISSIONS
-New York, 1985
-Massachusetts (retired), 1985
-California, 1989
-Nevada, 1995
-Colorado, 1999
-United States District Court, District of Massachusetts (retired), 1990
-United States Court of Appeals, New York, 1993
-United States District Court, Eastern District of California, 1995
-United States District Court, Northern District of California, 1995
-United States District Court, District of Nevada, 1995
-United States Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, 2012

HONORS AND MEMBERSHIPS
-California Academy of Attorneys for Health Care Professionals, 2013
-International Academy of Trial Lawyers, Fellow 2013
-American Board of Trial Advocates
-American Board of Professional Liability Attorneys,
-Board Certified in Medical Malpractice, 2012
-Member, Board of Governors, 2013
-Martindale-Hubbell rating: AV
-The Best Lawyers in America: 2010
-Northern California Super Lawyers: 2008 - Present
-State Bar of California
-State Bar of Nevada
-State Bar of New York
-State Bar of Colorado
-Association of Defense Counsel of Northern California and Nevada
-American Bar Association
-Sacramento County Bar Association
Education
  • Vermont School of Law
    Juris Doctorate

Theodore D. Poppinga

Ted was born and raised in Colusa, California. He has practiced law since 1987 and his practice focuses on medical malpractice defense. When he is not working, you can often find Ted singing with a local rock and roll band.

PROFESSIONAL HISTORY
-1993 to Present - Schuering Zimmerman & Doyle, LLP, Sacramento, CA
-Partner
-1989 to 1993 - Hardy, Erich, Brown & Wilson, Sacramento, CA
-Associate
-1987 to 1989 - Greve, Clifford, Diepenbrock & Paras, Sacramento, CA
-Associate

EDUCATION
-J.D., University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law, 1987
-B.A. (Political Science), University of California, Santa Barbara, 1983

ADMISSIONS
-California, 1987
-United States District Court, Eastern District of California, 1987

HONORS AND MEMBERSHIPS
-American Bar Association
-Association of Defense Counsel of Northern California and Nevada
-Sacramento County Bar Association

COMMUNITY SERVICE
-Organized fundraising concerts for: Women Escaping a Violent Environment, Inc. (WEAVE); UC Davis Children's Hospital; Children's Miracle Network; Albie Carson Breast Cancer Foundation; and East Sacramento Parks

PERSONAL INTERESTS
-Vocalist for a Sacramento Rock and Roll Band
-Golf
-Tennis
-Running
-Snow Skiing
Education
  • University of the Pacific
    Juris Doctorate

Glenn M. Holley

Glenn was born in Walnut Creek, California and he grew up in the North Lake Tahoe area. He has practiced law since 1985 and his practice focuses on general civil defense, legal malpractice defense, public entity defense, medical malpractice defense and alternative dispute resolution (he is a certified mediator). When Glenn is not working, he can often be found at Lake Tahoe with his family hiking, skiing, swimming and playing golf (especially the golf course with the windmill).

PROFESSIONAL HISTORY
-2006 to Present - Schuering Zimmerman & Doyle, LLP, Sacramento, CA
-Partner
-2003 to 2006 - Tweedy & Holley, Sacramento, CA,
-Partner
-1989 to 2003 - Bolling Walter & Gawthrop, Sacramento, CA
-Partner
-1986 to 1989 - General Civil and Criminal Defense Practice, Sacramento, CA

EDUCATION
-J.D., Western State University School of Law, San Diego, CA, 1985
-American Jurisprudence Award Wills
-American Jurisprudence Award Contracts
-Member of Law Review, Western State University Criminal Justice Journal
-B.A. (Political Science), California State University, Chico, 1979
-Mediation Certificate Institute for Conflict Management, LLC, Santa Monica, CA, 2005

ADMISSIONS
-California, 1985
-United States District Court, Eastern District of California, 1985

HONORS AND MEMBERSHIPS
-Martindale-Hubbell rating: BV
-Association of Defense Counsel of Northern California and Nevada
-Defense Research Institute
-Sacramento County Bar Association

PRESENTATIONS
Principals of Litigation. Nationwide Insurance Company. Sacramento, CA, September 1997.

Defending Low Impact Soft Tissue Cases. A presentation to various insurance companies,
third party administrators and claims representatives. Sacramento, CA, August 1996.

Wrongful Death Damages. California State Automobile Association. Sacramento, CA,
September 1995.

Damages Available To The Personal Injury Plaintiff. A presentation to various insurance companies and claims representatives. Sacramento, CA, April 1993.

PERSONAL INTERESTS
-Family
-Travel
-Golf
-Skiing
Education
  • Western State University School of Law
    Juris Doctorate

Kat Todd

Kat was born and raised in Alberta, Canada. She practiced law in Canada for two years before moving to California and she has practiced law in California since 2002. Kat's practice focuses on medical malpractice defense. She also has an interest in assisting acute care facilities with conservatorships and placements of patients who lack capacity and who do not qualify for state funding. When she is not working, Kat uses her experience as a former rugby player (she represented Canada in two Women's Rugby World Cups - 1998 in Holland and 2002 in Spain) to travel around the United States as a coach and mentor to referees.

PROFESSIONAL HISTORY
-2007 to Present - Schuering Zimmerman & Doyle, LLP, Sacramento, CA
-Partner
-2003 to 2007 - Dummit, Buchholz & Trapp, Sacramento, CA
-Associate
-2000 to 2001 - Wheatley Sadownik, Canada
-Associate
-1999 to 2000 - Bryan & Company, Canada
-Law Clerk

EDUCATION
-LL.B. (J.D.), University of Alberta, Canada, 1999
-B.A. (Psychology), Bishop's University, Quebec, Canada, 1995

ADMISSIONS
-Provincial Bar of Alberta, Canada, 2002
-California, 2002
-United States District Court, Eastern District, 2004

HONORS AND MEMBERSHIPS
-State Bar of California
-Sacramento County Bar Association
-Association of Defense Counsel of Northern California and Nevada
-Defense Research Institute
-California Society for Healthcare Risk Management (Northern California)
-Northern California Super Lawyers:
-Honored as one of "Northern California's Rising Stars" 2013

PERSONAL INTERESTS
-Athletics (rugby referee mentor and instructor)
Education
  • University of Alberta
    LL.B.

Jason S. Barnas

Jason was born in Sacramento, California and he grew up in Benicia, California. While attending law school, he worked for Travelers Insurance as a claims representative and he has practiced law since 2005. Jason is licensed in California and Nevada and his practice focuses on medical malpractice defense, general civil defense and insurance bad faith defense. When he is not working, he can often be found playing the guitar, biking and playing golf and basketball.

PROFESSIONAL HISTORY
-2006 to Present - Schuering Zimmerman & Doyle, LLP, Sacramento, CA
-Partner
-2001 to 2005 - Travelers Insurance, Rancho Cordova, CA
-Claims Representative

EDUCATION
-J.D. with Distinction, University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law, 2005
-B.A. (English), California State University Sacramento, 2000

ADMISSIONS
-California, 2005
-Nevada, 2006
-United States District Court, Eastern District of California, 2006
-United States District Court, Northern District of California, 2006

HONORS AND MEMBERSHIPS
-State Bar of California
-State Bar of Nevada
-Traynor Society
-Association of Defense Counsel of Northern California and Nevada
-Sacramento County Bar Association

PERSONAL INTERESTS
-Playing Guitar
-Basketball
-Golf
-Travel
Education
  • University of the Pacific
    Juris Doctorate
NOLODRUPAL-web1:DRU1.6.12.2.20161011.41205